A SOFT CRITICISM and LETTER TO 8:11

AKA....

Ya'll just wouldn't wait for a guy to call himself out first before you killed him....

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This page is a letter dedicated to 8:11. Heavy spoilers ahead!

CHARACTEERS & TOPICS TALKED ABOUT‼️‼️

• Ryker's relationship with religion, Vittorino, and Leon
• SUSAN! And a lot about her role in 811
• Accardi; and his writing
• Chapter two spoilers
• My terrible work schedule
• Being mentally ill
• Christiantity; its racism, and my rants about it
• incest 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
TW: EYESTRAIN!!!!!!!!! yknow, as long as i got someone sitting their ass down and reading this; i got great and fun images to go along with the theming of this blog

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Hello there!

I first attempted this[a letter to 811] with a commentary video......until my computer ran out of storage!! 😑➡️🙄 And daaaaamn it, editing videos takes forever! (Especially for a guy who can't seem to accomplish shit recently.) So here's a letter written to 8:11, Ryker, and the overall game from its creator.

Chapter 1; Over view

To get right into it, I've been wanting to talk about 811 and its future for a long time. On and off I've stated I'll work on chapter two. Maybe you've even seen THIS secretive Ryker image from my patreon?

I know I'm a frustrating, wishy-washy guy; and have talked on and on about how I will finish 811! To not completing it! Back again with another attempt-!!! Annnnnnd then quitting again. WTF DUDE!!!!! Pick a struggle; I tell myself!! Hhahaha. This cycle must be frustrating for the audiences wanting chapter two. Understandable. I'm upset too! I love Ryker and their journey! All of my rage about my past experiences gets to be vented out and formed into a cast of gothic-styled characters. I'm frustrated too, because all I see is old art and its impossible for me to not shake my head and grind my teeth going "everything looks so STRANGE!!!!"

I don't mean to trap my audience, or myself, in a loop of fake hope. I have tried numerous ways to work on chapter two....Then chapter one again. Or make anther chapter 1 with just the best of ch2 thrown into ch1: After all kinks are worked out. Even just another overly-same replica of chapter one with major graphic and script rehauls. I LOVE 811 more than anybody; obviously.! Hahahah. But sometimes fuck 811🙄➡️😑 yknow? I'll get more into it later; but the attempt at incorporating numerous spiritual beliefs; only for christianity to shine is disgusting. And sometimes feels like an insult to myself; because i do NOT support the church in ANY shape or way. Fuck, I'm not even goth anymore 😂 So a large part of 811 feels foreign to me; because I am no longer goth or attracted to those old past aesthetics and ways of thinking? The gritty images are great future dithered pngs.........almost as if i absorbed so many smexy vampire gay men, slutty men in priest collars,

I'm actually a little fucked up and deranged; its wrong ik, ik. 🙄 but i dont support christianity in ANY way; ive really matured and rightfully hate it inside and out. Look, ofc its cool and alright if you are a spiritual person who really resinated with my game! and ur allowed to!! but sometimes i am SOOOOOOO embarrassed this game is attached to my name!!!! and for eons too. It's totally fine if youre a religious fan of mine but respectfully....... idgaf[about ur beliefs]. and i never want to hear about that side of you, also out of the respect for you; because im!!!!!!! an!!!!!!!! AsssHOLE!!!!!!!!!!! I can't even recover well from a nap; let alone a moment when propaganda bs is thrown at ones face!!!!!!! can a guy just not fucking VENT on his own webpage!?!?!????

I ALSO love my four other projects I'm juggling right now. I don't want to be known ONLY for 811, and my OCD brain is pacing around going "i can tweak that 811 cutscene" to "fuck 811, its finished. now I can focus on yume nikko!" and then "well mortis game needs more time to develop, so I should stick to what I know best and work on 811".

And no matter how many times I rewrite the 811 ending in my head, or make Susan just of a great character alongside Ryker, or find comfort in how sweet Leon is; I crawl back and forth. I miss 811; but end up avoiding a lot of it. Or avoiding my least favorite parts of it. Because I accidentally poured too much of my real life circumstances, anger, and trauma into it. More on that later! But all that to say I'm glad 811 is at rest for now; because there's no way I can work on such a project when I'm battling a lot of life stress right now. Whenever I open the 811 engines, or attempt to make a funny side comic; my hands ache, my stomach churns, I start to sweat and my OCD and anxiety tell me it's better off a dead, unfinished project because why pour all my time and resources into a game I feel so ghosted from?

This letter comes from a place of love, nostaglia, but is also a look inside the inner creative mind when you find yourself with a game that could be updated; or wondering if you should drop it and move on. This IS a crazy personal letter; with lots of uncomfortable topics brought up. But I've always loved a good horror setting, and some drugs, so, here's some extra fun facts behind the scenes; and a DEEEEEEEEEP explanation for why the game was stuck in developement hell and, if possible, I would overhaul and change so much about the game nowadays! Despite all the pain and yearning for a new or better game; what we DO have is to be cherished! One guy sat down and made a whole ass game by himself! That's quite a feat!

Sometimes, life really sucks. But I still want to create art at the end of the day. And my hands yearn to draw; and they yearn to draw things I don't have to see repeated in every corner of my life. I'm exhausted of blonde angels, demons, the concept of cloudy heaven and brimstone-burning hell, of sin and atonement. I cringe at references to adam and eve, the apple, etc. There's SO MUCH MORE out in this world to see and experience; and I'm tired of the nonstop Christianity references. I think THATS another reason I wish i could rewrite and fix with 811; its meant to be ambiguous; but its shoehorned so much Catholicism into it; with no extra thoughts on other cultures of beliefs. And I desperately want the final outcome/look of the game was to be more representative of other cultures, but i really beefed it and have TONS more fun incorporating those ideas into my OTHER projects!!!!!! There's so much I wish i could edit outside of the aesthetics and visual arts.

An original soundtrack? Hell yes. Wait, maybe we could even mimic DDR dancing? Naaaaah. That's a looottta work and money for a team! I wish I could go back and change a lot of the story. 811 is too heavily TELLING, SPELLING OUT, and EXPLAINING every little annoying detail.. (while trying to be mysterious🙄).... when I think my old cringey storyboard stuff in the beginning 811s shined a lot for those great reasons.

All I can ever think about is "I HAVE to make this project 200000% perfect in order to attach my name to it"

AUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The creative mind is HELL!!!!!!!!!!

And OCD is HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

Chapter 2: Ships and Characters: Let's Dissect Them!

I am not black. Obviously, anything I say or do that's out of line should be called out! I have no say whether Leon, or Accardi, are well written black characters. And no one dickriding fan, or a carper, is the voice for a whole community. I will be talking about these characters regardless, and where I believe my shortcommings with them are.

I HIGHLY recommend this zine; "LOOKING AT HOW TO WRITE BLACK CHARACTERS"; by ophanimkei, is a great piece that goes over other fictional representation and the like. I might even show some screenshots from this zine here to help drive my point, since Ophanimkei is an excellent writer and should be sourced!

Ahem. So with that out of the way....... 🎉Leon is of African descent!!!!🎊 Always has been!!!!

Some audiences were upset that Leon "was revealed" to be mixed; and mixed black. Like this means nothing to him; and I'll admit, they are decently correct. I didn't announce Leon's ancestry with Egyptian blood way back when I should've. And what qualities or characteristics does Leon hold that separates him from the whiter characters? I don't know. The source for Leon's character DESIGN is a bit obvious, peeling off the trench coat.

I didn't intend to mislead; or conceal Leon's Egyptian heritage. It was always canon; I was just too scared or negligent in the past; I can't remember. Anyways, Leon is mixed; and of course, I fucked up with making this known: inside and out for Leon. My old artsyle doesn't do Leon, or myself, any favors. And Leon's family isn't exactly helping my case. Everyone seems to carry more white genes; BUT, debating on Leon and his family showing a "certain level" of blackness can quickly fall into OTHER bigotry thinking; as light skinnned blacks exist! And Leon is just doomed to have straight-wavy hair for concept art; but I aim to improve him and his family's attributes without needing to darken their skins or anything for extra credit points! Old mummy portraits provide great art references.

I'm assuming my younger self was just too scared to admit that 811 is kinda a mess. I created a mixed man, and wanted to include culture outside of France; but then my inner minds churn and I'm just flabberghasted I made an African-mixed man participant in a religion that WAS and IS used to mock his people and culture. Yes, Christianity holds a lot of weight in black and other communities; but let's not ignore the fact that white colonizers forced people to read the bible, learn English, in order to betray their "demonic' or "savage" langauges and spiritualities. I think Leon would hold angst for this, on top of his [LORE ACCURATE] reasonings for being critical of the church.

I've wanted to incorporate A LOT of other religions since 811 was a rpgmaker religious-themed-concept. Ancient Egyptian religion, Hinduism, Jewish faith, and admittably even some (American) tribal beliefs. But those are contradicting the christianity (for better or worse); and it feels WRONG to have those next to large neon cross signs. It feels senseless, rude, and against my own moral codings. Even though some of these still bled into the first chapter; like Beetle's moccasins and overly Native-design; sometimes it just feels SURREAL to have them included with, again, a game that is overly christian (and doesn't really get to take stabs at christianity; like I'd want now). Like, WHY get excited AND hurt thinking I could put sprinkle Egyptian mythology in, when I can save that for other projects!!!

I can't even get into how I LOVE the idea of male Leon struggling with identity, as usual, but with a hint of gender flavor. Maybe she doesn't want to be like her dad. Or was it that he didn't want to be like his mom? Certainly not like his brother either.... Anyways; Leon could interchangably use she/her pronouns, and align with some identities. But for one reason or another; doesn't bother so much with the appearances, because, yknow, the whole MIRROR thing. So she could hypothetically also be telling Ryker do NOT call me ur father again wtf (◣ _ ◢)

I suppose I could always USE my anger to channel motivation and fuel a drive to work on the game!!!!!! Let a she/her Leon too scared to maybe change herself; and didn't help much when Dante was ever misgendered. I could smartly use my character's flaws to outline my CRITIQUEs on the Catholic bible; but ohhhhhhh fuck. Am I too pussy to do that because I could accidentally make Leon look worse than he is? Or will I accidentally trigger myself because WHY spend my free time, away from the burdens of the modern cult!? These are the types of OCD thoughts that control me, but I do put up a good fight against them, don't you worry!!!!!!! I hope to one day give Leon, and any other character of mine, a well written story, quirks, an identity, favorite foods..........and then hurt them wrap them in a blanket!!!! and deliver them some hot soup for being a champ. I WILL free Leon of all his worries, and let him rest, but it could be at the cost of calling out the worst of religions, their followers, psychosis, etc. And while we're at it; FREE PALESTINE!!!!!!

which BRINGS us to the next subject. No funny jokes here. Trigger warning for a discussion with homophobia, transphobia, indigenous racism. ... I've had to deal with homophobic and transphobic shit all my life. Especially from the areas of religion, the area I grew up in, etc. It was difficult growing up and being told I was wrong for who I was; and that christanity would save me. People spoke as if I NEEDed to change and fit their mold. Pairing 811 with religion was a strange concept to me in hindsight; but I was extremely goth and fascinated with cathedrals; despite the hate that could grow within those walls. Maybe I'm still obsessed with them, deep down. I'm also mostly bringing up Christianity here; even though 811 takes homage from other religions; but the overwhelming feeling and references are that of Christianity and Catholicism. And yes, there's good Christians, other beliefs that prohibit lgbtq freedoms, and there's also good people within those groups too. IM just speaking from MY experiences. And that it's difficult to want to jump into a story that pains in so many ways. I've seen crazy shit in my life, and when i saw my father die; it manifested a lot of dark feelings in me. Ryker is so similar to me, but in a way, it's painful to see them so content being religious and desperately wanting to hold onto that hope and joy it once gave them. I want to shake their shoulders and tell Ryker holy FUCk. youre mixed, gay, transgender, WHY doesn't this hurt you the same way leon's death does!? But Ryker never responds to me. And i wish i could understand why Leon, or vittorino stuck around with their beliefs too. And just when I'm healed, get complimented for my work in therapy regarding my trauma and pains of being gay in an overly surveillanced state; there's chunky salt rubbed into my wounds. Another reason I’ve been neglecting 811 is because) …I’ve been growing closer to my indigenous culture and personhood. The history of Christianity has been aggressively forced upon my people. It's just a fictional world, I tell myself. But the pain of seeing this religion used to hurt, downplay its injustices, and create laws against my identity and people; past and present; why It’s too painful to work on the game trying to blissfully ignore those things. Fans are free to headcanon Ryker as indigenous. Or mixed. I love it, but I cannot personally bring myself to make that canon unless I rewrote 811 to be more grounded, and show off more horror; that religion can eat more at your identity than what we've seen with Vittorino. Ryker and Leon would be different. Flipped upside down. Vittorino has ambiguous gender and mental stuff going on; but finds comfort in himself? Vittorino loves himself; but Ryker doesn't love themself(which I think I might've failed to show in the game?) Ryker and Leon are different for other reasons; but they are darker skinned and the horror would potentially be about how their identities are fragmented pieces that find acceptable to show the public. I'd love to show the horror of someone trying to navigate their beliefs and how it's hurt people like them; and maybe themselves in the same way. But it's impossible for me to do it alone. And sometimes.......I'm glad 811 shys away from homophobia, or colonization; because for a brief moment *I* want to be selfish and forget those things happen. I want my suffering, or my communities' suffering; to be numbed out and I'm blissfully unaware of them for a few hours. To run away and forget the pain. But then i open the engines and just sit at my desk. I can't do anything but feel guilt. And shame, annoyance at myself, anger at my trauma and life circumstances, and then i feel violently angry. I want to throw up on my computer's keyboard, punch the monitor; and forget all things 811.

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It can be taxing to work on 811 for many personal aspects. If you don't want to hear about how fucked in the head the creator is, theeeeeeennnn turn this shit off. Don't let the bitching persuade you! Because I get nostalgic for 811 and its themes! Later on we will get to the BEST and more of the WORST for 811; because I've already grown a lot as a story and character writer; and the main 811 neocities is already a huge LOVE letter to the game. So let's call out some of the problematic shit!!! I love a lot of 811, even the aesthetics I don't care for anymore; like gothic architectures, and stained glass windows. .....And c'mon. Armor, especially the cute pointy knight hats are cute....Never got to give a character a sword either!

More Characters and a Sprinkle of Love ✨

I'll get more into my reasonings for my displeasures in 811 later, but I do miss my precious gothic little one! 811 has specific, catered needs that meet its aesthetics and story telling that aren't present in my other works. I've tried to save using deers, owls, other themes only for 811. I miss offputting and adorkable Beetle! Emotional hellbent Ryker! Fuck, dude, I miss Ryker so much. Sometimes I'm hyped for 811, and my fond memories of fun moments like scary Leon surgery, Accardi cannibalism, the catacombs, and a living building! A living creature in the shape of a cathedral that protects Vittorino inside her belly; and creates her own angel💖!!!!!! Her (angel) code name has been Azar for super long; but I've always wanted to file it down to Owl; just to fit Beetle's name. Teehee. 🦉 Otherwise, the Cathedral is just referred by another name with Vittorino and some priests.

Owl and the cathedral; Both are obsessed with Vittorino. Yes, the building is alive, and possibly Vittorino knows this (or chalks it up to his mentally ill brain). The Church is his mother figure; a role placed both from Vittorino's POV and the church manifested that love to become a living creature. Whether he is/n't aware of the living building or Owl right now in the timeline! Hahahah. But seriously, no, Owl is NOT related to Vittorino in any way. Or sees herself as a parent, and Vittorino as her daughter. She seems Vittorino as a scared prey animal, something somewhat beneath her (as all angels do in this world with humans); but wishes to provide Vittorino safety and love. Because the church hurt him; the building and its members; so despite the love the church had for the mischevious blonde: ultimately Owl has more sympathy for Vivi.

AND OWL IS NOT VITTORINOS MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was just wrong word choice mixed with edibles and a house with NO air conditioning!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The CATHEDRAL is his momma, but the angel IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!HE DOESNT HAVE SEX WITH THE CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE NO AIR CONDITIONING AND I MUST SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!

I UNDERSTAND I had a poor choice of words the first run of this blog. I understand implying that Vittorino had sex with his mother was possible; and that's terrifying. BUT FORBID I MESS UP!!!!! Owl is NOT his mom in any blood, metaphorical, or symbolic sense. She is his guardian angel, and he fucks her because Ryker and Beetle never have canon sex. ANNNNNNNNND!!!!!!!! Vittorino does not reciprocate the feelings/crush Owl has on him!!!!!!!!!! Vittorino just uses her for his gain!!!!!!!!! GAH!!!!!!

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8:11 has ALWAYS been a fetish game 🔞

It's an 18+ game!!!!!!!! THe original drafts had Ryker fucking [almost] EVERYBODYYYYY!!!!!! The game YALL know has had important sex scenes talked about before; like the planned RykerxAccardi sex scene that was supposed to heal all of Ryker's wounds; because gay sex is LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! I DO NOT DRAW GORE PORN EITHER!!!!!!!!! Despite what you may think.

I've always declined gore nsfw commissions. I don't participate in goretobers anymore; as my stomach for that stuff has shrunk over time And the reason sex and kinks and fetishes are brought up so prevelant now is because I'm a gay man whom sex life and kinks are examined and criticized online, irl, from church goers, to law makers and random people on the street. I WON'T feel shame for who I am, who I love, or what I sexually enjoy. As long as I'm not hurting someone, and all my parties consent, I should be in the clear. But most of my life has been a topic of discussion and rights; and I want to take a stab at the overly-white and colonized concepts of sex; and shamelessly show my characters engaging with themselves or others sexually. The church still holds so much power, and generational bigotry, that I'm fed up and want to put sex in A LOT of my projects. Because it's natural; silly, fun, emotional, comforting, and connection with another human. I want to use sex to navigate a character; how they talk or moan, how they accidentally cross a boundary and repent, to how they show love so intimately.

8:11 had WAY more sex scenes before its original release, the demo announcement, and back to the first drawing boards. Nothing like having men in tight uniforms grind on another; devoting their worship for another man, and intimiately challenge a church's rules.

CAREFUL!!!!!!! Topics such as incest brought up below!!!!!

........Shipping discourse? Oh fuuuuuuuuuuck. Let's unpack this bag. Originally, this part got me cancelled. I understand that the original blog [version seen here], was problematic. I truly apologize to ANYONE who thought I was about to promote incest on my platforms; here or otherwise. Do I ship Ryker and Leon? Nope. Do people online? Yes, unfortunately. I won't get TOO far into shipping discourse, because I do try to limit how much I interact with the community. I don't care what people ship, as long as its not p*do or inc*st in anyway!!!!!!! Nasty SHIT!!!!!😡😡😡😡

My original idea for this segment was to, yes, talk about Ryker and Leon's relationship. But also get another quick vent-sesh in about how people ask me for ethical 811 ships and jerk off OTPs. It's weird when people ask; and they always do, especially for Leon and Dante. And the answer? Nooooooooopeeeeee. Best to leave them alone too. But also stop asking me if you can ethically goon to a ship, then maybe just jerk off to something else that won't cause your moral compass to spiral!!! 😭 I'm sure there are five million toxic fictional men for you to play yaoi with. Sarcasm is drenched in this entire blog, and the way I navigate a lot of conversations, so be gentle with a guy who might continue his nature here.

8:11 was never going to show HEALTHY relationships. If there's anything that's constant with my works and characters; it's that characters and relationships are MESSY!!

• Juliek and Susan? Were young and let finances and drugs get in between them. Juliek also ignored Susan a great deal.
• Juliek and Accardi? Juliek used Accardi for emotional and intimacy rebounding
• Ryker and Accardi? Secrets galore, and literally just met
• Vittorino, Juliek and Accardi? Vittorino was neglected by the other two.
• Ryker and Leon.....? Shit.... Doesn't look good

Listen......I love Ryker and Leon a lot, and it makes me genuinely so sad knowing that I can't always work with them. Leon is struggling, but so was Ryker. They met at the best and worst time; and then Ryker stuck to Leon like a cactus. I never wanted Leon and Ryker's friendship to be seen in a predatory, grooming way. It genuinely upsets me with theories of Leon holding any wrong or immoral motives with Ryker.

So why did Leon kill himself? Leon is a sympathic man. He recognized he subconsciously used Ryker for a large part in his relationship with Ryker; as he did with past relationships. Leon gets attached easily, despite hating that fact about himself, and tried to shake Ryker off his ankles a few times. But that persistant sheep always returned! Leon didn't want what happened with 🤐🤐🤐🤐 to repeat with Ryker, so, that was partially why he killed himself. Leon probably really hated himself for allowing Ryker to follow him around Europe; because he fears being alone. He hated himself for knowing Ryker had so little, and gambled their entire future just to follow him. Yes, it's problematic to ship these two.

One occurrence I've noticed is that all friends who have played 811, within the first few moments, assumed Ryker and Leon had a age gap relationship. They always think Ryker is gonna call Leon "daddy". I always laughed it off, and then seeing the fandom react so harshly to any shippers of that pairing is so jarring. Because they could be shipping worse in the 811 sphere, I dread to imagine; and have been shown by some weirdos. I've truthfully never cared if people wanted to ship Ryker and Leon; because ORIGINALLY I figured most people just recontextualized the daddy thing into a kink-bdsm relationship. (Which, is still problematic at its core, but we can't get into that now). I didn't think much more; and just hoped people shipping these two characters would gracefully write out the father-son dynamic Ryker and Leon had; but, I was being fucking ignorant!!! Ofc I'm just turning a blind eye to the worst of it!!! After receiving backlash on the words said earlier, I retreaded my footprints and thought about their pairing more. I really, really fucked up. No one has to white knight or forgive me; but do NOT say I was trying to promote incest!!!!!!!

I tightly casted Leon, Ryker, and Dante to follow the holy trinity. All three rely on the other to function; even if Ryker doesn't know that yet. None of these three are blood related; but Leon and Dante are the original father and son (adopted). Despite that, Dante represents the spirit of the holy trinity; and Ryker represents the (nonbinary) son. Christianity and catholicism has failed me again, I fear. While I do love this holy trinity; and it works to fit with the number-theming in 811; I fear I stepped myself into dangerous shipping discourse! Because now all I get are people asking me if X and Y can be shipped; which is a fine question to ask! But after years of it, and getting death threats from ships like Dakota/Wankou (getting a chance to be lesbians) to Ryker/Leon; I've just had it!

I realize Ryker and Leon have a pseudo-familiar relationship; and even if I'm annoyed at how I tight-casted my own characters; I still recognize the [811 game] that already exists and how audiences only have THAT to rely on. I can deconstrunct Ryker and Leon all I want mentally; and rebuild their relationship to be more eco-friendly; but I realized I fucked up and WILL NEVER promote incestual relationships, blood or not, with my platforms. So, in the future; while I might create age-gap relationships; please understand I will NEVER promote actually toxic and abusive relationships; and everything I do is explored through fiction and could be seen through a horror-lens. Again, I apologize for anyone I hurt originally; and just know 811 never had any intentions to promote abusive, incestual stuff!!!!!! And with the current public version of 811; Ryker and Leon are already building their relationship on a rocky path, so inherently they are in a strange relationship. Ryker was young, impressionable, lonely, and ran away with a stranger.

I do not promote toxic/abusive extreme age gaps either😡👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

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I also draw Leon, Ryker, and Dante as animals and furries. Whether I'm drawing them as the same species, similar species, or different ones; I am NOT shipping them incestually.

More Shipping!!!!

None of that matters when the canon is that Ryker and Accardi have AWESOME GAY SEX!!!!! I wish overall the series was a bigger dive into fetishes and kinks. Not even trying to sound lame with "gee, wish my game was HORNIER" and just add some boobs and boners. I want things dialed the fuck up; leather nun uniforms, pissed pants Ryker after the tooth Vittorino scene, SPANKED MEN!!!! Not only is sexualizing men in priest uniforms hot af, BUT seeing them crumble for their desires and needs is sooooooo smexy💖💖💖 Over on Patreon, and my socials, I showed a sketchy comic strip of Accardi and Juliek breaking up (from chapter 1) BUT if they were having sex during it.

Some criticisms I've heard since starting this page is "so you just want a sex game with no plot?"

..........As if...........sex isn't just human nature? And a sex game CAN have plot? Or interesting lore?

A lot of my future works just might be fitted with leather chest harnesses, masks, safewords, and tender aftercare if I see it applicable. Especially since I've always imagined Ryker is secretly into leather, but super uneducated on how kinky sex works, and needs some guidance from Accardi 🤩

.....Or how I wish I could get into the planned chapter 2; Vittorino x angel Owl sex scene.

Juliek and Accardi have a complicated, messy relationship. It seems like Accardi wants more than what Juliek can really give him; and I think it would be fun to play with characters using SEX of all things to really "sit down" and talk things out. Who said sex has to be boring slop? Why can't I try to prove the haters wrong and try to make an engaging sex scene?

waaaaaaaaaait. So what about Accardi? Is he just a sex-having man to you? Just some cannibal? Well, no, not to me! But i understand if there's criticism after the game's release; and how all I do is talk about cannibalism this, and sex that, for Accardi. I don't mean to sound like I'm going in circles with his character; because I really try to do better with him nowadays! Two truths can be right at the same time; because I'm trying to always learn and adapt him into a better character. But also he's my oc, and, if I want to draw him having sex 69 more times, then I should be freed to do so 😭 No one is invalid for that critique; but it is MY character to play toys with; yknow?

IF YOU WISH TO SEE MORE OF ACCARDI; FOLLOW HIS BLOG HERE!!!! It's a page meant to reflect some old internet eras; and how Accardi would hold up his own unique webpage!

OFC I WANT to work more with Accardi. He's already grown so much over the years since the first demo and game release💝 I love him so much, and have put a lot of practice into his curls, lips, nose, and body fat. That is considered the bare minimum to some; but overall I've become so happy with how he looks now! And sometimes cringe at his older haircuts, hahaha

There are a ton of resources for drawing coily hair! You can find a lot online. But here is just one of those; drawn and made by psydoq on twitter!

I don't know if I ever confirmed this before; but Accardi naturally has 4c hair! Not all exmaples below hold 4c hair, but, think of all the fun possibilites there are for Accardi to style his hair with!

I'm not blind to the worst of Accardi. It's not a great look when I haven't really added cannibalistic subtle details to the other 811 characters, like I did for Accardi. It's tribalism at its worst; and I'm sorry. I don't mean for Accardi to be the only cannibal; because, he's not. But I'm sorry regardless. Just take comfort knowing he's not the only one in Rosso doing this! Nor the last.

I ALSO have the drawing below; that was drawn in 2024. It was brought up when someone else was rightfully criticizing Accardi's lack of blackness and how his "whiter features" are still drawn to this day. I'm here to clarify that this was a tongue-n-cheek drawing that shows Accardi possibly is using MSPaint; and is heavily inspired by anime; a categorey that primarily draws softer or whiter features. Whether or not that point got across is up for debate; but know that I only ever draw him like this is a stab at my old techniques. Maybe he uses bases too!!!!! Would definitely just color or mindlessly doodle in mspaint because hes so fucking CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looking back at; "LOOKING AT HOW TO WRITE BLACK CHARACTERS"; by ophanimkei, you'll be surprised to see a handsome, recognizeable purple man!!

First of all, I'm flattered!! And honored to be mentioned! Ophanimkei is open about how she won't go too in-depth discussing Accardi as representation; BUUUUUUUT she does talk a lot about creating and writing black characters! Accardi, and a large part of 811; are messy characters. Their relationships are messy, and the characters are so toxic they just might as well appear on an episode of Columbo. That doesn't excuse everything; but Accardi also follows this logic. Yes, making him the frontman of cannibalism is in bad taste. Yes, I drew him for years with the same facial features as my white and other characters. Then suddenly started playing his features around tos ee which fit the best. Yes, he could be way more complicated. And yes, I'm not black! I get NO FINAL say in how Accardi is as black representation ofc; as discussed with the Leon session. I CANNOT forgive Accardi's written or visual crimes either; but ultimately I'm glad he exists. And that he's a cannibal, among other cannibals. I'm not blind to the worst of Accardi. I can't forgive him entirely; and showing off a random screenshot of him being loved isn't meant to be a "gotcha". It's just that I love writing problematic characters; and Accardi is one of my favorite ocs ever! If you follow his personal webpage, you would get to see so many extra details added onto his character!

Trust me, I see a game that is heavy with the spiritual themes. I have a chance, especially while I'm already criticizing Christianity, to show some Wicca! Look, I'm already nervous about potentially adding Egyptian mythologies, Hinduism, Islamic things; and have put a harsh decline on showing Native/tribal spirituality. I AM scared to add something like Wicca; because researching for beliefs of other American tribes can sometimes be near IMPOSSIBLE to not find much of anything; and terms being misused and gentrified: and I do NOT wish to cause any further hurt or harm by making Accardi follow something he never intended to begin with. There IS a lot of opportunity for trial and error with writing characters; but stories are an entirely different ballgame; and one I'm still practicing at! Until I can get my native fictions out, and adapt from there; maybe I can write something or a character following Wicca. But I don't know if Wicca belongs in 8:11 for now 😭

He wasn't supposed to be JUST the relationship guy. It's really my bad that I sometimes only highlight Accardi having a relationship with others [Juliek, Ryker]; or being a cannibal. Accardi was supposed to get so much screentime, workshops, and improve as a character in chapter. And I might just honestly get swept up talking about his relationships with the other characters a lot; sex or not, because sex is ALSO important to Accardi and naturally I try to show more sex works of all characters on patreon because its decent to host porn there!

WHEW!

Ya keeping up? How about a water break? Because next on our list is SUSAN!!!!!! Then a brief Owl segment paired with dante's; and finally a wrap up.

ANNNNNNND now onto another important character! Despite her lack of appearances in ch.1; she IS important!!!! Yaoi MAKES 811; but also destroys it. ya hear me? Susan, aka Ken, is another special 811 character. Sorry that Susan get bullet points compared to paragraphs like the male characters; so PLEASE accept that I'm trying my best to not keep you sat here FOREVERXD

Susan is a great character, and would need some chapter 1 rewrites, but i hope to also fit in these awesome moments with her;

• She finds a random, abandoned fetus in the catacombs. That baby's name? Amalia
• LOVES JULIEK AND VITTORINO SO MUCH!!!!. Loves them equally; but knew that Vittorino essentially worshipped and adored her
• GENDAFLUID! Or was okay with being called Ken, and only used male pronouns around her boys
• 💚🍏her real hair color is green! She just dyes it a lot. And dyes it many, many, many colors.
• Was SO suspicious of Leon and didn't really like him. Is an outsider voice of reason for Ryker
• she's already a "dead wife" trope (she's actually still alive, just, no one in game knows this yet; game was meant to remix this trope)
• Was against the church especially for a lot of transphobia regarding Vittorino (who uses mirror pronouns and wanted to dress more fem) and misogyny
• Remove the fact that she was Gabriel's co-worker? Should've been removed in earlier stages of 811; but I'm sure it bled through some cracks
• She isn't religious; but stuck around Vivi so much; she tried to see the good in it
• Her and Accardi aren't the best friends; despite both hating religion.
• AFAIK; she doesn't know Beetle; but has met Owl. And undergone some scary trials at the basilica 😱

Quick Time Dante Event!!!

Maaaaaaake some noise for DANTE!!!!!!! Because HERE HE COMES!!!! let's get to the chase😱

Dante is a GREAT character. I also fully encourage people to draw Dante black if they want; because the white dreads look is AMAZING and I wish he canonically looked like that. But alas! We shold love the crazy white boy we DO have right!? There's a lot to love with Dante; like how his entire shtick is surrealism! We never really see his face in the game, and the times we do, its just off putting or wrong, anatomy wise. The detached eyes and mouth especially are so awesome, and I pat myself on the back for that one.

If 811 was remade, or rewritten in some areas; I'd include MORE angelic-deity, or spirit-like aura, to him. There's a tiger, or leopard, deity [depending on the tribe] in India that is just a leopard with a man's body [at times. depends on the story/tribe!]. Waghoba, this mighty animal, could easily fit in with Dante's prebuilt aesthetics.

And Owl?

• arguably more attached to her human than beetle is/was
• we've seen regular sized owls in the first chapter. I like to think she can use their eyes and ears whenever; and has been spying on ryker for a bit now!
• vittorino cannot see her until after reading the bible from ryker

Chapter 3: Compliments to the Chef

So....You just want to change 811 over completely? You fucking hate 811?

No!!!!! I mean, well, yes; I hate how overly christian it is, BUT!!!!!! I still love it. Of course I do. I made a game I worked years on, but cmon; naturally when you improve your skillsets, you cringe seeing the older stuff you put out into the world.

A lot of people took this page wrong; but it's okay, I don't blame them, because it was all over the place and even now there are HEAVY rants about how I get triggered by the game. I still love it, no matter how much hate or criticism I receive from the game. I've been through some wild shit, seen crazy things, and transform my traumas into horror media. I understand it's not for everyone, sometimes not even myself! I mostly just wish to include more than Christianity; and white Europe as the focus! I still love Italy. But I also love A LOT of other countries and cultures. Again, I just wish to showcase more of the world in this game. So much of the church's horrors would remain intact; because even as a wee lad, deep down I was still arguing with the church and how it shoved its lifestyle down my throat! Ultimately I'm just always stuck in a middle space; unsure how far my criticisms and horror should go; for myself and audiences.

If anything; maybe MORE fun dream sequences and circus-themed areas. Hahahha, get it? Because I think christianity is a joke? Hahahahaha.

And now that I've grown as an artist; and have found love in traditional mediums; I wish to showcase MORE of that in 811. Originally; I wanted EVERY dream sequence Ryker had to be drawn in a unqiue art style!!!! 8:11 was always meant to be experimental with its art. And I've grown so much as an artist with my bedazzling skills; I just know I can accomplish this in the future!!! I can bedazzle just about anything, and find so much joy in creating traditional paintings. Mixed media takes stupid long, but the end product is always worth it. I love art, especially when it sparkles and shines!!! And sparkles will always be a part of my art✨✨

ESPECIALLY knowing that Vittorino is an artist!!!!!! That guy will transform that abandoned church into a giant art statement; yknow!?!?!?!? I have so many paintings and frames that would work so well to express Vittorino's relationships with others, how he sees them (btw, did you know that guy has facial blindness? hahaha), the world, and his home.

I have SO MUHC LOVE for 811 too!!!!"

• the bible speaking to ryker, and telling them to spit into vittorino's eyes? priceless!!!!
• idc what anyone says; i love all chase scenes in 811😂
• vittorino and his freaky nature. He's a special boy; and well loved in the fandom for a reason! Now, if only I could harness the power of animated Ace Attorney sprites......le sigh
• The game, and Ryker's dreams, would probably still heavily follow Dante's inferno/the divine comedy
• the gores and the horrorssss

OHHHHH HOW TERRIBLY SCARY 811 is.........and how I love that 811 mimics so many played out horror tropes and themes. Whether or not 811 successfully parodied everything, or remixed it well enough, 811 was a quilt made of other horror concepts. Rabbits, deers, owls, had to include those of course. Make them integral with their shared character counterparts. Mirrors could be utilized more; which I DESPERATELY claw my hands at. I LOVE MIRRORS!!!!! Mirror fun houses, mirrors in the dark, kids games and legends that surround mirrors, and fictional abilities to go INSIDE a mirror? I'm already cumming ropes bro. So much could be said with a mirror, and ohhhh I just NEED to itch that mirror stuff in 811 more. I mean, where do we think all the horrors really happen in this fictional world!?!? Inside the mirror world, dammit!!!! We never even got to see inside the mirror-sphere in chapter two; waughhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Again; whether 811 successfully parodies tropes or not is up for audience debate. I didn't nail the mark everytime, but I'm still proud of what a baby young 20s Niko did. Making an entire 8 hour game is tough work, especially when I was primarily working on it alone!!!

Thanks for reading, if anyone did. I promise it's not always gloomy in the Dubuk head whenever 811 is on the mind! Just.... a good 50/50 hahaha. I DO love 811 a lot. So desperately I still want to redo the first chapter and maybe squeeze chapter 2 content into the first game to make ONE SOLID 811. I like to believe I'll get there; to a point that I can work on the game again with a smile. Even if it's far into the future.